Ill Literacy, Episode 179: Out of the Darkness (Guest: Frank Trentmann)

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Heartland’s Tim Benson is joined by Frank Trentmann, professor of history at Birkbeck, University of London, to discuss his latest book, Out of the Darkness: The Germans, 1942–2022. They chat about how a nation whose past has been marked by mass murder, a people who cheered Adolf Hitler, reinvented themselves, and by how much. 

Show Notes:

Literary Review: David Blackbourn – “A Mercedes in Every Garage”

New York Review of Books: Timothy Garton Ash – “Big Germany, What Now?”

The New Statesman: Brendan Simms – “What it means to be German”

The Times: Oliver Moody – “Out of the Darkness by Frank Trentmann review — how Germans became good (and rather complacent)”

Times Literary Supplement: Ben Hutchinson – “New moral order”

The Wall Street Journal: Ian Brunskill – “‘Out of the Darkness’ Review: War Crimes and Remembrance”

The Washington Post: Bryn Stole – “An ambitious history of Germany interrogates the country’s moral makeover”


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Ill Literacy, Episode 179: Out of the Darkness (Guest: Frank Trentmann)