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And that's what climate change is about. It is literally not figuratively a clear and present danger.

We are in the beginning of a mass extinction.

The ability of c 02 to do the heavy work of creating a climate catastrophe is almost nil at this point.

The price of oil has been artificially elevated to the point of insanity.

That's not how you power a modern industrial system. The ultimate goal of this renewable energy, you know, plan is to reach the exact same point that we're

at now.

Yeah. You know who's trying that? Germany. 7 straight days of no wind for Germany. Their factories are shutting down.

They really do act like weather didn't happen prior to, like, 1910. Today is Friday.

That's right, Greta, you pint sized protester. It is Friday, and this is our own personal Friday protest. The Climate Realism Show, episode number 112. Hurricane season begins bigger and badder, maybe. I'm your host, Anthony Watts, senior fellow for environment and climate at the Heartland Institute.

Joining me today, doctor h Sterling Burnett, director of the Arthur b Robinson Center at Heartland, and Linnea Lukin, research fellow at the Robinson Center. Plus, we originally planned for 2 of America's best hurricane experts, but technology has failed us, and we only have one. The esteemed Joe Bostardi of Weatherbelle will be talking to us today about what these predictions mean for the Gulf Coast and the East Coast of the United States. Welcome, everybody. Thank you.

Thank you for joining us today.

It's my pleasure to be here. I always love doing this.

Yeah. Well, unfortunately, we won't have Stanley today to go back and forth with, and we regret that we can't get the technical troubles solved. But you know what? That's how live television goes. So on episode 112 today of the Climate Realism Show, hurricane season 2024 kicks off tomorrow, June 1st.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, NOAA, made a prediction last week saying they're gonna have a more more normal or more than normal, greater than normal active season. They're expecting an 85% certainty that we'll have 17 to 25 named storms, 8 to 13 hurricanes, and 4 to 7 major hurricanes this year. So,

you

know, we're gonna delve into that. Now we're gonna get to that, but we're gonna go to crazy climate news first like we normally do, and then we'll get to our main topic, and and talk about that. So in the crazy climate news this week, we have, an interesting article, from, Roger Pilkey. Jim, if you can bring that up, it's a Twitter page from the honest broker, Roger Pilkey junior. They're, not quite, but close.

Anyway, we're wait while we're waiting for that to come up, we we Stanley couldn't make it to all of the shows, so we were normally gonna be doing anyway, we're we're going with the flow. So here it is from Roger Pilkey. According to Bill McKibben, Joe Biden should exploit disasters to try to get people to vote for him by promising that wind turbines and solar panels can stop floods and fires. I can't imagine a worse idea for the Biden campaign. And the Biden campaign is saying if I were, or Bill McKibben is saying,

if I

were running the campaign, I've had Biden out there and the heat out there and the wreckage after the hurricanes out there when it floods and burns, and my message would be relentless and simple. To get out of this cycle to, destruction, we need clean energy. I've supported it. My opponent has opposed it. And on laughable grounds that windmills cause cancer, for instance.

So let's go forward, not backwards. Well, you know what? You can't change the weather. You know? No matter how much you believe you can, you can't change the weather.

Not gonna happen. And yet Yep. The only seem to think they can.

The only way I can see windmills and solar panels stopping sea level rise is if they're used as barriers. You know, if you if you just turn them over on their side and pile them up and use them to block the water as it comes in, the sea you know, build a seawall out of the disposed of wind turbines that are piling up in West Texas right now.

Yeah. I I've, I've, I've written several times on CFAC. They're blessed that they let me, you know, put stuff on there about exactly what Biden's gonna do. And, apparently, McKibbin, he I think he follows me on Twitter, has seen me say several times that's what they're going to do. They're gonna lie, cheat, and steal the way they always do, no perspective, and this is how they get away with that kind of stuff because the average American doesn't know what happened before.

In addition, there's so many more people living in harm's way now. So if you get a season like last year, I mean, what was miraculous about last year was how fast Idalia fell apart coming to the coast. I mean, the damage was no more than a category 1 hurricane. 12 hours before, it was a category 4. And instead of instead of looking at that kind of stuff and all the positives that go on, these guys, they're just gonna do it.

I mean, I actually thought 2 years ago, Biden would declare the climate emergency. I've written a couple of, again, blogs on that, but it's smarter to do it during the electric season. And guys like McKim McKibben, they just lie. They don't care. And we're dealing with zealots here.

And I've tried to get this across to a lot of people on our side of the issue that they we fight the science. We have the science. We won the science. But the fact is when you have a committed amount of zelts that will do anything and they happen to grab the reins of power, I mean, look what look what happened in Germany. Look what happened in Russia.

I'm sorry if, yeah, everybody wants to stay. Oh, science. Science. Science. But it's not about that.

I've never since 2015, 16, I've never thought after that Super El Nino with the temperature spike, I say, now they gotta see it. They gotta see it's a water vapor in the oceans and net large natural forcing. Nope. Didn't make any difference to anybody. So, it's I don't know how you deal in a world that where, you got people who just they lie without even caring about it.

I don't know if they're ignorant or they're deceitful. I I can't figure it out sometimes. But I remember McKibbin saying when, Irene was coming up the coast, she was a category 4 in the Bahamas. And McKibbin goes, this is the future with global warming. Right?

And guess what happened? She hit as a she hit as a category 1 or 2. You know, none of these long track storms, the ones that develop out in the way out in the Atlantic and their category fours and fives, none of them have reached the United States, with the exception of Irma, as a major hurricane. Florence fell apart. Dorian fell apart.

Matthew fell apart. It's a remarkable statistic because you did not see that in the thirties, forties, and fifties. Those long track beasts were monsters that came in. We've got a lot of these compact storms now. So I've already gone off here, and I'm sure we got more climate crazy stuff that Anthony wants to get in.

So I'll shut up for a little while.

Well, I got plenty of crazy stuff. You know, we've all seen the craziness en masse. Like, every day, there's a new onslaught of climate craziness. We covered this last week, but here it is again. This, fire at this battery facility for backup power, they now say it could go on for weeks.

Weeks. Gosh. Who would have thought that you couldn't put a lithium fire out? Right?

I have And, you know, my my my main question is now nearby areas that are also using big battery pack factories for backup power. They're sitting there thinking, do we really want these in town? Maybe. Maybe we should have these factories miles from any, from any residents or business. But more importantly, you know, those were for backup.

So what's their backup now?

These these are supposed

to these are supposed to fill in. It ain't filling in while it's burning, folks.

In the end in the end, those those things will be more of a problem than nuclear waste because everybody's afraid, where are we gonna put the nuclear waste if we wanna if we wanna have nuclear power plants, which would destroy the the if you I gotta kick out

Bill Gates. I mean, the guy is such

I I don't know. Is he a he's got so much money. He's got more money than God, so he can't be stupid. He must just be so obsessed. He says trees have nothing to do with the climate.

And I'm like, how is that even possible? Do you know over 50 percent of the, states in the United States are carbon negative? Never mind neutral. Because if you look at their emissions versus the amount of trees they have and what trees take out of the atmosphere, the c o 2, they're actually at a deficit. Now there's some states that aren't at a deficit, obviously.

But Gates Gates says stuff like that, And you my opinion is if you're if you're afraid of the c 02 boogeyman, alright, then you push for more greenery and you push for nuclear power. And I'm still trying to figure out where the heck this energy is going to come from to run these electric vehicles. Anyways, stay I see Stanley's on. That's good. Says he is right here, I guess.

It's it's it's, they're not gonna have they're not gonna have, power to run the electric vehicles. California shows you the way. Buy electric vehicles. Buy only electric vehicles. But by the way, as the power goes out, don't charge your electric vehicles.

So And Basically, you've got a nice paperweight or a lawn ornament, with your electric vehicle in the summer there.

Well, the other thing, we're we're gonna have

to rebuild all the roads because the the roads okay. Let's say you're a trucker. You you you guys have all seen weigh stations. The darn battery for a truck is so heavy that the roads aren't gonna be able to take this stuff, and the the the guardrails aren't gonna be able to take a a crash. You know?

Who who thinks that you put a 1,000 pound battery in the front of a car and your braking system is actually gonna survive more than 3 or 4 years just with normal usage? But this is what's going on, and it and and my opinion is the whole thing and I I write about this on CFAK. I wrote about the climate offensive that's starting now, and there's so much nonsense coming out that you can't stop it. You can't sit there and counter every single thing. Alright?

But but you have so much of this going on that people are overwhelmed with it, and they just said, throw I just wanna live my life, throw up my hands, whatever. You know? I mean, when you have a 18 year old girl who, you know, happens to be, suffering from depression, becoming the spokesman for this, and the fact that she gets angry releases the endorphins that make her feel better about herself. I mean, what what does that say? You got a pope calling people stupid.

Right? I I I it's just it's just it's insane world. And, you know, if I, you know, if I tell my wife all the time, if I didn't have God in my life, I don't know what the heck I would do, really, because you go out of your mind over here. I I actually think in a in an interesting way, and I tell these people all the time, the evil you see makes you realize that the only place to counter it is with faith. That's how I look at it.

And I I believe that, you know, I was blessed to be in this field, and I'm gonna keep playing until the good Lord pulls me out of the arena. But, on the other hand, I'm gonna try to tell the truth or give someone an opinion. If I'm wrong about it, I say, hey. I'm wrong about it. I learned something.

You know?

Lynae wanted to say something, I think. Yeah. So anyway

What I what I was gonna say regarding the batteries is is just that, you know, we're going to have these battery factories no matter what. I mean, if we're continuing to build out electronic infrastructure in general, you know, if we're gonna have all these phones and if we're gonna continue to use lithium battery technology, they're going to exist. What's nuts is that we've had them for long enough at this point that you would think that they would have really strong suppression systems. Like, I know on, offshore and the oil rigs and stuff, like, you don't store batteries in a room that doesn't have, like, a c o two, system to pull the oxygen out of the room as soon as it starts. You know?

Like like, they they don't they don't storm and just like out in the open in random places and they're super, super careful about, you know, you're not supposed to have anything that can generate any static when there's gas in the air, that kind of thing. Like, I it just blows my mind that they're handling these super large quantities of a, of known hazard, and it seems like, I don't know. I don't know if the rate of these things going up in flames is higher than, like, any other factory, but it seems like it's happening, quite a bit lately. So I don't know.

Okay. So let's go on to our next climate craziness of the week. Politico reported over a year ago that Congress provided $7,500,000,000 for electric vehicle charges, and so far, they've built 0. Not surprising. The government can't do anything right.

But guess what? Guess what? Now it's a year later. They've made huge progress. Huge progress.

Let's go to the next one. 7,500,000,000 in government cash on built only 8 chargers in two and a half years. Wow. Progress.

A $1,000,000,000 a charger. Well, at that rate, we'll get Biden's how many did he wanna build?

134,000,000.

No. He no. A 100 that can't be right. He

doesn't No.

I think it was a 134,000,000. What what is it in Wyoming or something? There's, along I eighty, there's only 18 places you could charge your your car. It's just some statistic I'm saying, what the heck's a trucker gonna do traveling across Wyoming if he wants to get a charge? That's the other thing.

You know, time time is something no one can get back. And I know this. It takes me a minute and a half to get a 400 mile range on my my car, even though it's getting quite expensive. 30 minutes, 45 minutes? Oh, I'll charge it I'll charge it at night in my garage.

Well, where's that electricity coming from? There's no sun at night, so you're not getting it from solar panels or whatever. I I did wanna say, speaking of boondoggles, does anybody anybody that built that pier off Gaza actually understand what happens in the Mediterranean, how they can get big storms? Like, did you ever read the Bible with Paul? 14 days of hurricane force winds or whatever.

Now, my I had a relative that was actually forecasting for that storm, and he nailed it perfectly. Sound like Trump there. Oh, I I was right about that. No. But what happens is you're building a floating pier, and it's not in a protected bay.

So what do you think is gonna happen if there's a northwest wind 15 to 25 miles an hour, which is not a strong fresh breeze for those people over there. Right? But it's coming across the Mediterranean causing 10 to 15 foot seas from Greece. Let's say you have a northwest flow from Greece toward toward, Lebanon. What do you think if you have a floating pier that's whatever long?

What do you think is gonna happen when those waves start hitting the pier? I I'm looking at this going, did Ed, did you consult any meteorologist on this? It's not quite a climate crazy, but I'm surprised no one's blamed climate change for it yet.

Well, we did have a similar story 2 weeks ago, not with the floating pier, but with the floating solar panel. Oh. It's floating solar industrial park. I think it was in Malaysia or Indonesia. The largest in the world, got wrecked when a storm came in and blew all the panels against each other, crunched it all up.

Genius.

Genius. Way, these are not solar farms. They're solar deserts. I wrote that industrial facilities. Yeah.

Well, I call them solar deserts because they destroy the environment, the natural environment around, and the temperature can hit 70 c over these panels. In fact, what we should do is we should require a weather station in the center of these solar deserts so we can see exactly what's going on relative to the environment around it. Alright? I'll I'll let you know.

I can imagine those things are really toasty in the middle of those solar farms.

So so what do you do? You're you're creating your own little, I don't know, heat island, and you get you stop putting it all over the place, what what's gonna happen? Like, I'm I'm I'm torn between it because it would likely enhance upward motion of any thunderstorm approaching. So I'm I'm sitting here looking at it, but this is this is something nobody seems to I haven't heard anybody think about this. But if you're a meteorologist, you're sitting there going, well, if I have a 2 by 2 mile square mile, 2 by 2, area 4 square mile area covered with solar panels that used to be nice green grass with bunny rabbits hopping around and butterflies and all this.

Right? And it's now covered with environmentally safe solar panels. It's probably gonna wreak havoc not only where it is but around it.

Well, that's why you you you got a good recommendation that, somewhat some weather station be need to be solar, but it has to be a manned weather station. I I propose placing an assistant director of Noah at every large wind farm. That's his new station right in the middle of it in a cinder block, hut, with his equipment or a floating, the the equivalent of a cinder block, hut, whatever that would be, in in the ocean, and then we'll see how long we wanna keep building these things. My my my suspicion is the administrator after one hot day, would say, no. We gotta close this thing down.

Yeah. Well, it's weird. You know, they, they had the picture of the tornado hitting in Iowa, hitting hitting that, wind field. I've been through that wind field before. First time, driving back from Lincoln from, watching some wrestling.

And when I went through there, I go, what the heck's gonna happen here if you know, it doesn't even have to be an f 5, get an f 3. What are you gonna happen if if all this stuff that we've been hearing about hurricanes, how bad they're gonna be? New England is in its longest hurricane drought on record, I believe. 32 years with no landfalling hurricane on the New England or New England or Long Island. So suppose because of the jackpot shortage.

Yes,

sir? Let's save that for when we get into our main topic. We're still in the crazy climate news.

Well, I saw it. It was had to do with the windmills offshore. But

Oh, alright. Alright.

What what what is gonna happen is you take down a few of those windmills, it'll be more than whales you're worried about, washing up on the beach. I'll tell you. That's the other thing too. Where I wrote this in CFAF. Where are the environmentalists with this stuff?

The true Yeah. What happened to them?

They're environmentalists of convenience. If it's not convenient for them, they don't like it. If it's convenient for them and their message, they're all for it. That's the whole bottom line with those bozos.

It was Alright. Let's move on. About power and control before. It's about power and control now. They thought they could control you with species and land lockups before.

Now they can control you with climate change, whatever suits their desire for power. Right.

So let's move on to our next slide. This one is pretty profound. This is from doctor Robert Rhode, who is the cofounder of the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature Project. He says, so many global warming conversations are like, a, let the globe warm. I have air conditioning, and it's rather cold here anyway.

Or b, but what if people in India and South America find warming intolerable? Will you help them? Answer, no. Bleep them. I mean, really?

Wow. This is from scientists.

You know, it's funny. They've they they they are having a heat wave in New Delhi now. I'd look at the weather in India because the onset of the Indian Ocean monsoon is crucial for the hurricane season. We know that if it's, we know that if the man I should talk about it later. But but May is the hottest month in India, and you had these own heads going, it's unbelievable.

It's in 45, 46 c in Delhi. The normal high is 44 c in Delhi in May, by the way. What's gonna happen during the summer? What's gonna happen? The monsoon comes in.

It's cool. It's in the eighties and low nineties every day. It's not a 105, a 110. India is at the same latitude as Saudi Arabia. If it's not raining, guess what's gonna happen?

I see so many of these, and I don't know if the people are ignorant or they just wanna make their point. There are a lot of things I'm ignorant about. And when I get corrected, I go and look. I say, That guy is right about that. I will adopt it, and it'll make me stronger.

But I'm just amazed at just the same repetitive don't look. Just a for instance, this whole heat wave in India, 3 quarters of Asia is below normal. Three quarters, including the coldest areas in Asia, 3 days ago were colder in magnitude than the warm was. Now someone, if they're smart, they come back and say, well, of course, that's the case because the hotter it gets, the tougher it is to get hotter. Okay.

I know. But yeah.

I didn't point out The temperature that they recorded that was the hottest ever in India, oh my god, we're gonna die, was on based on faulty data. The equipment was shown to be bad. It it read high.

I think I saw that. Yeah. Yeah. Of course.

That didn't stop the media. The media just goes out there and slathers out doom and gloom, you know, because climate change is causing everything bad today.

Mhmm. And when the monsoons come or don't come, if if they come and they're severe, it'll be climate change. And if they don't come and there's, the the the farmers suffer, it'll be climate change. But no matter what, it'll be climate change.

The, yeah. So, like, one of these things where I tell I'm I'm associated, indirectly with the Penn State wrestling team. They're, you know, one of the best wrestling teams in the country. And the kids the kids asked me about climate change. I said, well, let me tell you how you score climate change.

It'd be the equivalent if I was wrestling you and you scored on me. I would get the points. That's how they do it. No matter what happens, they're correct, and they get they get the points. And it's just astounding watching this.

I think it has to do a lot with, you know, give everybody a trophy. I mean, that that is coming home to roost. And the other thing is we don't teach critical thinking anymore. Now I love what's up with that, Anthony Seite, and I love Mark Levin. I I love I I love Mark, but I can't I go to what's up with that.

I know my blood pressure is gonna go through the roof because I put a blood for you.

Thank you.

Climate change causing blood pressure risers throughout the world.

Well, did you hear we had a lady diagnosed with climate change? Did you see that? Some Canadian doctor, diagnosed somebody with climate change. I'm like, oh my god. You know?

And and it's just like, it's madness. It is. And I feel like at the end of the bridge, the movie The Bridge of the River Kwai, where I forget who the actor was, but he's standing there looking at everything going, madness. Madness. Right?

That's what that's what it is.

William Holden.

William Holden. That's right.

Yeah. That

was a great movie.

It was. It was. And, you know, everybody dies at the end or or oh, no. It's not Titanic. Never mind.

Alright. Let's go on. You are cartoon of the week. This one well, not really a cartoon, but it could be. Tesla introduces a new rooftop tent so you and the family can sleep while it charges or if you're waiting in line.

I I saw I saw, I saw a picture of after he had hit, and there was this large parking lot of Teslas just covered with water, and the caption was, gentlemen, start your Teslas in the you know, underwater with batteries. They have, oh, yeah. I think I think that there's a chance because it's coming from a a private situation that, Tesla has become more, I don't know what the word is, usable. But forcing all this on people that's the thing. I have nothing against I have nothing against EVs.

I don't even have anything against wind and solar. I think wind and solar can be a supplement. Same reason, like, you know, when I I my, diet for bodybuilding, I have supplements. Right? But they're not my main diet.

Right? Well, the same kind of thing can can happen with the the EVs. If you wanna go buy an EV, if you have that money to buy an EV and charge it and understand that once the battery goes in 4 years, you've totaled the car, good. God bless you. It's like if you wanna build a mansion on the beach, god bless you.

Go do it. But it's it's it's crazy when they say, well, you've gotta do this and you've gotta do that. It's just that's not what this country is supposed to be about. And the climate the phony climate war has led to the war I tell people it led to the war in with Russia and Ukraine. Because if you kept those oil prices down, Putin doesn't do anything.

He doesn't have the ability to do it. We saw him we saw him twice go into places when oil hit a $100 a barrel. Right? All all this and the inflation, and it's just it's really a war on your freedom. And I don't understand why people aren't getting that.

It's maybe it's just like, you know, that old thing when you boil when you boil a frog or boil lobster, can't figure out it's actually boiling until it's too late. But alright.

Yeah. Anyway, enough of the craziness. Let's go on to some real facts here. So we're gonna talk about the hurricane season. Now Noah released last week a, hurricane Atlantic hurricane season outlook.

You know? And this one this particular page that we're showing you here is the the press, friendly version of it. Right? And one of the most interesting things about this particular press friendly version of it is that they cited climate change in there. And, you know, they talk about climate change causing, you know, greater hurricanes or whatever.

I forget exactly what the phrase was. But, you know, they're also talking about La Nina. The language that they used in this is very, very similar to what they said in 2022 when they first started talking about 2022 being a, you know, an upcoming disastrous year. And, it's same guy in there, Rick Spinrad. You know?

What a great name for a hurricane forecaster. Spinrad sounds like some kind of a new Doppler Wappler 9,000 system that you have at a TV station. Spinrad 10,000. Anyway, the point is is that A radical spin doctor. Release is full of hype.

Now if you go to what the Climate Prediction Center released, where they actually produced the data, Now this is very scientific and very dry. Doesn't have one mention of climate change in this whatsoever. So it's clear that the spin reds I mean, spin doctors over at NOAA juiced up their public announcement to go to the press and added climate change to it where there was no mention of it in the original forecast. And that's what we're up against, folk. We're up against this sort of latent and and never ending addition of climate change messaging to anything scientific.

And it's They're modeling like, with Noah.

They're modeling their behavior after the intergovernmental panel on climate change, who puts out very staid, largely boring reports, 100 of pages long, that don't, predict climate alarm. And then they produce a summary for policy makers, largely produced by the policy makers or at least directed by the policy makers, which is filled with climate alarm. So they're they're just, following, IPCC's leadership there. Well, my opinion is go ahead. Go on.

Go ahead.

In my opinion, there's plenty to be alarmed about. On December 7th, Weatherbelle put out our hurricane forecast for 25 to 30 storms, hurricanes 13 to 17, majors 5 to 8, and, the total ace of 200 to 200 and 40, we have tens 10 storms, named storm, actually impacting the United States. What does that mean? You could have a storm east of you to get tropical storm force winds? It counts as an impact.

Hurricane impact, I expect at least 5 storms and perhaps as many as 8 to impact the US, with hurricane hurricane conditions, major hurricanes 3 to 5. We have a red cone painted. This came out December 7th and it was based a lot of my climate hypothesis on what is driving the sea surface temperatures, why the Atlantic had no ability to cool. But I knew that La Nina was coming back gangbusters. And for those of you who follow me on Weather Bell and follow me on Twitter, you heard me saying that when that El Nino was trying to peak.

We did not even get we we had a cold PDO, and in the in the southern the Southern Oscillation Index did not even record an El Nino this year. So while we had a very, very warm Eastern and Central Pacific with with that situation, all the players around it said it cannot be sustained. And sure enough, the La Ninas coming on, leaving the Atlantic in in unbelievable shape for a lot of storms. Our 3 3 analog years, 2005, 2017, 2020, and we match up all the conditions. Now what had to happen, I I will probably never put out a forecast that early again.

And with everybody piling in, you got man with 35 storms or whatever, and almost everybody's up in the low to mid twenties. It means if it doesn't happen, I'll simply be wrongest, longest. But, on the other hand, our our our companies remember, I'm in the private sector. So here's the problem. If you're in the private sector, if you do not produce value added information, bye bye.

There's no reason to pay for me if I don't give you something that's helping. Not if if I'm not helping you, why pay for me? Right? We got the I mean, obviously, the Hurricane Center, they're great forecasters. So what do I bring in to bring to the table?

I have to bring some to the table. And I when I when I was looking at this as this, this El Nino was evolving And, again, working with some of the people I work with behind in the background and some of the things that we believe are driving a lot of the warming of the oceans now, It just looked to me like this thing was going to be reversed and was going to lead. And the European European computer forecast has the highest forecast it's ever had. The the mileage in what way? Well, highest days, the highest number of storms, the highest they're right on top of us.

So what happened was, when we reissued the forecast in May, I didn't change I didn't change anything. I've never done that. So this is I don't think this is hype from NOAA. I mean, they are blaming it on climate change is certainly what they love to do, but we have 2 to 3 times the normal amount of ACE index, forecasted for the US codes.

Sir, help me understand this because the language that they used is virtually the same that they used in 2022, and they started out in 2022 talking about, you know, you know, more hurricanes, worse hurricanes, you know, more named storms, so forth and so on. You know? And 2022 was a dud, and they had Oh, it was a dud

it was a dud relative. Was it it it was a dud relative to 21 20. But when you come off El Nino

I mean, it was the dud compared to their initial forecast when they did not and made an initial forecast in the spring compared to what the end of it was.

No. We didn't have it. You know, I'm not I am not gonna speak for another forecaster. I wasn't in their office, so I don't know what's going on. We didn't have

a asking you, what's different this year?

What's the well, first of all, you're coming off an El Nino, so there's a reversal taking place. Secondly, the Atlantic is at record warm levels. It's warmer than it was last year. And and, basically, what you have is and the Western Pacific is gonna shut down, Anthony. We've had the 2nd latest start on record, and that here's what happens.

If you do not waste the energy in the tropics, in the Indian Ocean, in the Western Pacific, that energy is gonna show up someplace. And something Gil Clark taught me, when he was at the hurricane center in, 19, back in 19 eighties. And before the Matt and Julian oscillation, which I just live and live and die with, before that came out, Gil detected us to how that rotational the the rotation of that, band of low pressure around the equator would lead to increased activity. You'd always watch the Western Pacific. Now years when the Western Pacific was down and I had to watch the Western Pacific because in the seventies, when I was going to Penn State, we didn't have a lot of hurricanes.

So my professor, doctor John Kerr, made me go study typhoons because they were the typhoon seasons were unbelievable back then. Right? And Right. The Atlantic was not. So what you're seeing is you see

Here's the Gulf of Mexico. You see the graph that's up there?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We're ahead

of we're ahead of schedule for ocean heat content, and I think that's part of the reason that everybody's alarmed.

But let but let me let me ask. So let me ask.

You know what we call we are you know what we call hold a sec. We call this forecast in December. The forecast from weather bell was the hurricane season from hell. Alright? The parameters are all there.

That does it. Now what has to happen to really seal it is in August September, the Central Atlantic and has to cool. When that happens, all the heat gets incubated in the main development regions. The other thing we look for, folks, is the Madden Julian oscillation in phase 2 and 3. And if you've noticed, we have had all the major hurricanes that hit United States that developed within 2 days of the coast have developed in the Madden Julian oscillation phase 2 or 3.

Now you're not gonna hear this or see this unless you're getting our discussions, which, by the way, are available for the public. Right? Or you're gonna say, well, we got this condition, that condition, but we have so much more going on. The fact that you're gonna have ridging, ridging at 500 millibars is gonna be in the western part of the United States and over the north over the northwest Atlantic. Right?

That whenever those the old timers taught me that when you see a lot of ridging in the northwest Atlantic, that's the New Berlin wheel. When you have and that's why I think, Anthony, you're gonna have a very hot summer out there. It's gonna everything's gonna reverse. But what happens is that Western Ridge has been in Mexico. Right?

So what'll happen is as the Rockies begin to heat up, it literally pulls that ridge north. Right? And that ridge will be over over the Rocky Mountains, and it'll lead to a sympathetic trough, I think, over the, eastern and southern part of the United States. That in turn ventilates the Atlantic and the Gulf of Mexico. You didn't have that in 2022.

And yet, for instance, you had it in 2017. Notice how you notice what's going on in Texas now. It's cooling down because of all the rain. There are hints

that are going that you with all this expertise that you have and this stored knowledge of previous seasons and so forth, you should write a book, hurricane season forecasting for dummies. You know? You could really clean up on that.

You know what I'd really like to do? And it's because I I admire them so much. I I admire the I admire the daylight. So yeah. I mean, I can't believe I used to disagree with Neil Frank about this.

I absolutely love Neil Frank. He's just just, he just tells

us something director of the hurricane center.

The sense of humility about him. And hurricanes and the weather teaches me humility, and lord knows with my Sicilian background, I need it. But the, I would I would love to be involved behind the scenes so no one knows. You know, talk with I used to talk with guys at the hurricane center all the time in the eighties. Gail Clark and Bob Case.

And, I talk I used to talk every once in a while with, Stacy Stewart. I haven't talked to anybody in a long time there. I was looking forward to Stanley. Stanley Stanley was right last year about the number of storms. They all they all stayed out at sea because the North Atlantic was so warm, and the El Nino signal did shut down the Gulf of Mexico and much of the Caribbean.

Right? But you had a bunch of storms. And, by the way, I wanna say something to people about this AI. Alright? AI is likely never to be much better than our complex models are now in the weather because you have an inf basically, an infinite system with all sorts of funky things going on.

Anybody see what happened with the sea surface temperatures around Australia this winter? They went from being 2 to 3 c below normal to 2 to 3 c above normal in a period of 45 days. Now what caused that? Gee, I wonder. Right?

But what what happens is the the AI model can't anticipate that. It can't anticipate, a bunch of other things that go on. I watch that model every single day because I'm watching the propaganda come out with it now. And it's funny because a lot of people in the meteorological community are jumping out. Oh, this is the greatest thing at Chocolate Canyon.

Well, you're not gonna have a job pretty soon if that's right. And if you actually look at it every day like I do, it's all over the place. Right? So so last year last year, it was directing hurricane Lee. There were 3 or 4 runs that directed hurricane Lee and up Narragansett Bay, except not by the south southwest coming from the south southeast.

That would have been a category 3 hurricane hitting New England from the south southeast, would have been the most devastating hurricane on record. What happened? It went 300 miles east of Providence. Alright? Was it I think it had a shower one afternoon over there in September 15th.

So, they're gonna help us they're gonna help us with this, but I don't think they're the, know all, end all about the whole thing.

Joe, can I ask a question?

Yeah. So this is because hurricane season don't officially start until tomorrow or tonight at midnight. Right? But this we haven't had a single named storm, tropical storm, in the North Atlantic, and it's the first time since, what, 19, 1983, since that's occurred. No.

No.

No. No. It's a it's a Despite the heat. No. It's the latest since 1983 for the northern hemisphere to get started.

Well, the the northern the northern hemisphere, that's what we're talking about here. It's

Oh, not not the the northern hemisphere is also the Pacific Ocean. So what the what Klosbach was referencing was the 1983 season didn't start till June 8th, and that was with the Pacific typhoon. So what happens with the Atlantic Basin in many years, it doesn't get started till, later than June 1st. In fact, I kick it off off the top of my head. For instance, Alicia Alicia developed August 15th.

Andrew developed, what, August 8th or 9th, I forget, the first the a storm. But they do generally try to, the re the reason you're not seeing it now is the mandolin oscillation Sterling. It's over in phases 45, and that shuts down the Atlantic. The reasons why it's in 45 now is likely because the Indian Ocean's been so warm. But as the Indian Ocean cools as the Indian Ocean cools, what happens is when the ocean gets warm, surface pressures tend to lower.

The man and Julian oscillation is all about surface pressures. So what we're seeing, the strong signal, and we anticipated this, because we anticipated, the La Nina coming back on, that shuts down the upward motion over the Central Pacific. Where is the upward motion gonna show up? It's gonna show up over the Atlantic. Why is it gonna show up over the Atlantic?

Because the Atlantic is very warm. The the way you produce the long track monsters, and I'm afraid they're gonna be a couple this year. Alright? The way you produce it is to cool the Central Atlantic. If you ever notice the the hurricane season 2005, the Central Atlantic's cool, and you're left with warm water between, let's say, 25 North and South America, and that can that can amplify the storms.

What we have to worry about is these in in close developing storms. Now you noticed there was a on the Noah put out this thing, says size matters. I have been talking about this for 20 years. I developed a power and impact scale, I I I. I sound like a bomb over here.

I'm sorry about that, folks. But I developed this power and impact scale, say, Saff or Simpson doesn't cut it anymore. You can have a 110 mile an hour wind in a 5 mile area, and it'll get the same rating as, let's say, a hurricane Donna or something, you have to incorporate the size of the storm. So what I'm I I put in my impact scale to see what the total energy is because that's what I think we have to measure to make any difference with climate change because these nimrods come along and say, they're getting worse. Right?

Well, no. They're getting smaller. They're actually smaller storms. They're more fist and fury. You look at Charlie versus Ian versus Donna, and I I bring this up all the time.

Charlie is they they all hit as category fours in the same place in Florida. Charlie I mean, peak peak wind gust in Miami on the other side of the peninsula was about 30 miles an hour. Ian, it was 50 to 60 miles an hour. Donna, a 100 miles an hour. Now how the heck are those storms in the same category?

They're in the same category because all they were worried about is the wind at the center. And when you're talking about these smaller storms, obviously, a smaller storm does not carry the same amount of energy as a larger storm. My goodness. If you look at some of these hurricanes that have hit the eastern seaboard in the forties fifties, it's like, if I did not if I did not know to actually go to Blue Hill, actually go to Providence, Rhode Island, and look at the high watermarks, I can't even believe that could happen with the the strength of these storms. A wind gust, a 186 miles an hour.

Blue Hill, Massachusetts. Oh, yeah. Okay. It's up at 600 feet. Still a 186 miles an hour?

No wonder there's 30 to 40 foot waves coming up Narragansett Bay. You know you know, you got Obama. Lives Obama lives in the yeah. I should be friends with him because I love to ride out a hurricane in his house. He lives at the top of a funnel shaped bay, alright, facing south.

You know what happens in Martha's Vineyard if you get a you know, one of these hurricanes coming up through there? It'd be underwater over there. Right? But I I buy my my house on the beach. Look at Bezos.

He bought 3 mansions on a man made barrier island in South Florida. That's another place. So it's been 30 32 years since South Florida, within 50 miles of Miami, has been hit by a major hurricane. That I can't even believe that. Right?

So there are places where there are hurricane droughts going on relative to the history. So, anyway, it's, all this stuff all this stuff, you have to look at the entire picture. Storms storms are developing in close to the coast. They love to do it in phase 2 and 3 of the Madden Julian oscillation. Remember Harvey?

On August 21st, everybody's staring at the eclipse. I'm telling my clients har Harvey, which was east of Honduras at the time, would be a major hurricane. Alright? I'm sorry about the eyes, folks. The fact is Weatherbelle is a relatively small shop, and, I also found out indirectly that I'm sort of shadow banned.

So despite the fact that I put our forecast out over a 150 times on Twitter since December 7th, No one seems to know about it. Right? Which may be the good lord protecting me in case I'm wrong. So, anyway, there's so much stuff out there and so many things to talk about. And, it's like anything.

Why aren't the climate

change Before we get into the next one, let's go to this one. Let me just

Why aren't we talking about how storms are going down in the western Pacific? The average ACE index in the western Pacific is 3 times that of the Atlantic, yet we've had 4 years in a row with some kind of near record low. Last year, it's unbelievable. El Nino season, they only had 15 named storms out there. The average during the El Nino season in the Western Pacific is 28.

It was a record low year. This year, I think they could have a record low ace. That is what that's the big climate change signal out there, more so than the Atlantic, which comes up and down and comes up and down. And, you know, like I said before, if you don't if you don't get the Western Pacific going wild, you better look out in the Atlantic basin, and that's what one of the things we

The media doesn't care about the Western Pacific because it's not America.

Well, let's put it this way. If we're thinking globally, we've gotta look at that. If you're forecasting for the United States, you better darn well be looking at the Indian Ocean, the Pacific, what's going on in Australia, all these areas, and none of them do. I I watch people just it drives me crazy to watch you got 3 people discussing a line of showers going through Atlanta at 5 o'clock for rush hour, but you won't have someone actually go in and dig into what the source of the warming is, why is it warming here, not over here, the nature of those things, how is that affecting the global wind oscillation, sea level pressures, vertical velocity? You know it really soon really soon in that bunch, the the Connolly's have discovered the Hadley cell has literally disappeared.

What's a Hadley cell? It's a belt of it's a belt of upward motion and high pressure over the tropics. Why does it disappear? Because the heating is distorted. It's away from the equator.

So if there's more upward motion further north and further south, what happens to the vertical velocities over the equator? And what does that mean? Less clouds. What do less clouds mean? Well, more sunshine to warm the ocean in the tropical areas.

I mean, all these things are linked, and no one wants to say boo about them. Oh, it's c o two.

Okay. So I wanna bring up a graph of, Ace, which has been plotted since around 1980 to the present and and show you just where we were. It ended in 2022, and there's I didn't get 2023 onto that. But look at this. There is no discernible pattern in the accumulated cyclone energy.

Yeah. You you know why? Because this the western Pacific is down so much. It it it it I don't know if that's doctor Maui's stuff. He's just I I love Brian's stuff.

And, but it it's we're in a global we're we're supposedly talking about global thing. How many people live on the East Coast of the United States, the Gulf, the Caribbean, and Mexico, on the East Coast? Let's say a 100,000,000. How many people live from the Philippines up through Southeast Asia, China, and Japan compared to that? Well, a heck of a lot more people live in harm's way from typhoons.

Do you realize that in in in the Bay of Bengal, for goodness sakes, we've had we've had cyclones go in there, kill a quarter 1000000 people. And Haiphong the Haiphong, typhoon back in the 1800 killed over 300,000 people. So don't they count? I mean, where's all the where's all the, hey. We're all in this together.

No. So there's good and there's bad. There's always balancing out. It's been like that since the beginning of time, and it will continue to be like that. The thing we have to worry about, Anthony, in close rapid development storms, and you get the hint on that when we're in phase 2 and 3 of the Madden Julian oscillation.

The long traps track storms, you can see them coming, and if they slow down before they come to the United States, they won't hit as majors because it'll cause a lot of upwelling. You saw that with Florence. You know, Florence, the Washington Post, was saying it was gonna be a category 6. It hit as a 1 or 2. I mean

Then then

they they

Yeah. They're never gonna give up on that category 6 thing. But here's something I wanna talk about in relation to climate change. Now Ryan Maui had a tweet, the other day that was really, really interesting. Basically, he says, a new hurricane paper has just been published of a 1000 years' worth of data, and they're using sediments as a proxy.

Basically, they can determine, you know, when a strong hurricane went through and deposited new sediments. So they use these the these this proxy data to look at historic variability, and they plotted a graph. And they did different locations. You know, the Bahamas, New England, Mid Atlantic, Caicos, you know, all these different places. And look at this.

The activity for hurricanes based on deposition of sediment is actually down compared to, you know, like, 1,000 AD and 1100 AD.

Yeah. Well, that

Bottom line is there's nothing to worry about the in terms of climate juicing up hurricanes.

No. It it it's not. Look. It's what goes up must come down. I mean, it's a I tell people all the time, you know, there is a bit there's more energy available, but what we call the zonal potential energy is decreasing.

It's warming more, and that has to do with water vapor. If you're a meteorologist, you know about saturation mixing ratios. You know that tiny, tiny, tiny amounts of water vapor affect the temperature much more where it's nice and cold, alright, as opposed to where it's warm. So you're getting this distorted warming away from the tropical areas. You'd you need I call it incubation of heat.

You need to focus the heat in an area for a hurricane. Now last year, it was so spread out across the Atlantic, we had a bunch of ham sandwich ham sandwiches get, named. You they you know, as, there's a 45 mile an hour straddle queues swirl out in the middle of nowhere, and it gets a name. Right? So those are very different from what we see actually coming in where you see an Ian and you see a Idalia, and you see an Ida.

We ought to ban that I name, Storm, too, because they see Irene, Isbell. I mean, what the heck? Ike. It's like, I've just sort of realized this is like stream of consciousness. Yeah.

We gotta get rid of the I name. That's the biggest problem. But, but the fact is that these storms hit in certain patterns, and you could see them coming. It's the reason why on, in on CFACT. I had a I I see I I had a attention governor governor DeSantis 9 days away on Ian when it when it was just a mass of clouds.

You could see the pattern evolve. You know? But, yeah, look. I'm an I'm a nerd. I'm still a nerd.

So, I mean,

I No. No. No. No. That's wrong.

You're a horror nerd.

Yeah. Well, I binge watch I binge watch MAPS. I mean Yeah. You know, the the, Noah is just such Noah's wonderful. I mean, I understand

a good job on forecasting. No doubt. No doubt. I wanna move on to question and answer. Move on to our question and answer period.

Research is the research branch is great. It's unbelievable. I love these guys. Oh, damn.

If you've got q and a, take it away.

Alright. So, we're gonna start out with, we got 2 super chats during our, chat here today. 1st is from our friend, Alan, who gave us £5, and he says when big tech clashes with the green lobby, who is going to win? And this is referring to something we talked about on crazy climate news. Fellas, any comment?

Well, that's a tough one. I mean, the green lobby and big tech, you know, they're kind of aligned as they are now. I don't know. I mean, that's that's like watching, Godzilla and Mothra fight. Know?

Well, I think it's more in the term of, like, the energy requirements of AI and

We're seeing it.

That would span. Right? Totally incompatible with the green effort.

We're seeing it already. We talked about it for the last couple of weeks where Zuckerberg and, BlackRock Sky says we gotta have reliable energy. And when big tech clashes with the greens, my suspicion is the greens lose, because big tech controls the media outlets. Suddenly, they'll be suppressed on on Facebook and Twitter and YouTube until unless and until they come around to Big Tex point of view. And I think it helps also that, or it it hurts or helps.

I don't know what what you wanna think about it. That Big Tech is funding these green outfits. When the funding from big tech goes away and the big tech disagreements become more common and prominent, I think the greens will lose some influence.

Yep. Indeed.

Will they or are we looking at a situation where, I'm getting dinged over here. We're looking at a situation where there's such zealots. It's not gonna matter. By that, I mean, let's remember there were established, industries. I believe green is red is is really Marxist.

That's what I believe now. Alright?

Zealots have to have an outlet, and the prominent outlet now is not the mainstream media, but, social media online, and they can suppress social media as they've proven them with us and, others.

Well, it'll be interesting to see. As long as I can get my weather maps, I'm happy. Yep.

Thank you, Roxanne Oil. Also, you're a regular viewer, and we appreciate you. So thank you very much for your super chat as well. You didn't give us a question, though, but we appreciate it anyway. Okay.

Now we've got

By the way, I wanna add that that amount of money that we got from rocks and oil and and that other fellow amounting to £5.5, that's still 10 times more than the amount of money we get from Big Oil.

Yep. So thank you, guys.

I can't I can't can't believe my Coke brothers check.

How

been 15 years. Every day, I'm out in the mailbox, and the Coke brother. I had Bill Nye tell me I'm, I'm in the pocket of the, Koch brothers. And I'm like, what?

But, yeah, I have some guy with a professor over at Chico State that tries to slime me with that lie on a regular basis, and he hasn't you know, he, it it's impossible to talk to these people. Anyway, go ahead, Linea.

Alright. So from BOGUS, which is a great name, he says, has anyone charted out the difference between preseason predictions and final hurricane numbers, say, since Katrina?

Yes. They're all available on the European, site. And they have some very good years, and they have some very bad years as, all of us do from time to time. They for instance, their their 2,005 was forecast to be a very down year. And as we know, 2,005 was not.

I I do a little bit different. I do a lot of analoging. By that, I mean, I go back and I try to mix and match past years. I have to take into account changes in, the I mean, the input is very different. Now I wanna say very different, but different now because you're dealing with a warmer source region, and you're dealing with it being warmer in one place and maybe not as warm in another place.

So you have to try to keep that in mind. Well, one thing I I did notice, early, and this has to do again with this hypothesis I have that El Ninos if they're gonna be strong, they can't last. I mean, in other words, you could have this El Nino collapse, but it just had to sort of be wishy washy. It's almost like this gotta flip to the other side because of, what what actually goes on. So if you know that, you know that you're not gonna see the Atlantic cool, and the Atlantic's already very, very I mean, it stayed warm through the winter.

Right? We had nothing to come in there and try to take it down. Then you know that, you know, we had 20 last year. I don't know how we get under 25 this year unless there's just 1 or 2 big giant storms that take all the energy out. The other thing I noticed too is unlike the gentle giant in 2010, that's what you know, we had a we had El Nino, and then it went to La Nina La Nina and a big a season, but nothing really hit the United States.

My father I remember talking to my father in August. He said, boy, it's raining a lot in the Gulf of Mexico. And I said, yeah. I noticed that. He says, well, that's gonna take the energy out of the atmosphere.

And so, you know, my dad was a meteorologist, and he's one of these these old time guys, man. I used to hate when he used to disagree with me because it would always mean, oh my gosh. I'm wrong. Right? So I said, well, yeah.

I see that, dad. But then we got all these things going on. And if you look at what happened in 2010, I'll be darned. Almost everything avoided that area because precipitation and rain means something. So what we're seeing now is we're seeing we're seeing the, you know, we've had a lot of rain in Texas and that kind of stuff, but we're gonna dry out Texas into Louisiana, into Western Florida in a much more conducive, pattern, you know, relative to 2010.

I'm sorry about the beeping. Someone from work keeps beeping me, but I'm here now. So I apologize.

Alright. So beeping aside, let's get a weather nerd of the year. There we go. Linnea, go for it.

Alright. Water holds heat energy better than land, and this comes from Albert. So in January, the earth is closest to the sun when it's summer over the southern ocean. So maybe so could that be why we're seeing warming and more active ENSO?

We're not really seeing more active ENSO. What we saw was a short lived, o and I ENSO. We didn't even see the response, with the Southern Oscillation Index with the longest running, measure of the El Nino. The multivariate ENSO index was just weak this year. So some of the other parameters, it wasn't it wasn't like we always see.

But, no, the sun it it all depends on how much sunlight, the angle of the sun is reaching the earth. Because if the earth's a little bit close it's not like the sun's a big heat or it's it's heat expanding out. You need the radiation to hit the earth, and it doesn't really make that much it doesn't really make that much of a difference. Less cloudiness definitely does that, but here's what's here's what's going on. It has gotten so warm over the ring of fire, which is the volcanic activity.

It comes up from where you see the the only place where Antarctica is melting. Lot of underwater volcanoes around there. Chia, I wonder what's going on there. Right? You see it go northwest toward New Zealand.

It comes up. It goes east of Japan and turns eastward. Right? So what happens is if you were getting increased input there and the air is warming more than it may be warming someplace else, what does that do? It lowers the barometric pressure.

What does lowering the barometric pressure do? It increases the Easterlies across the Pacific. What does that do? It leads to upwelling from off South America. Boom.

La Nina's formed. We are in a La Nina based state in in the atmosphere. I suspect we went through the same thing in the mid in medieval warm periods. In fact, the, the reproduction of, the temperatures in the medieval warm period, what we're seeing today is it's astounding how close it is. I put it on Twitter for people to see and on Weatherbelle.

But what happens is when you get that kind of distortion, even if you get you're gonna get an El Nino to try to fight back because the atmosphere the ocean and the atmosphere are always gonna try to fight back. But they're either weak and, they're either weak, or if they're gonna be strong, they're gonna come up and go down fast. And that's what you saw happen. At least the theory, was tested, and it looked like it worked pretty good.

Alright. Next question, Alea.

Well, we don't have any more questions from the audience, but I have a question. I was wondering, is do does your modeling have a high enough resolution to try to predict, and this is totally a self interested question, to try and predict where the hurricanes are gonna be

Well, no. Yep. I I

I use analogs. I don't have a model. What I do is I set I go I I I go meticulously through hurricane seasons. Like and I I I don't believe anybody stares at maps as much as I do. And, look, I I am a I'm a geek.

I've always been a geek. You know? I I did wrestle in college because I didn't want people to think I'm a geek, but I'm a geek. I hung out at the weather tower all the time. And so what I do is I go my my father taught me this.

He said, where you stand today was built yesterday to reach for tomorrow. So what he always used to say to me, he says, I don't care how good the computers get and all this other stuff. If you have seen something before, then if you see it showing up again, you'll recognize it. So what I do is I look at the past all the time, and it's got me so you know, it used to be that you were penalized for not knowing things. In today's age, with people who believe that history began 10 minutes ago, you're penalized for actually knowing things because you expose stuff.

Now whether I'm right or wrong, what I do is I start lining up patterns. I believe the weather is a movie. It's not a snapshot. And I tell everybody I I get not aggravated, but, you know, winter comes and people, subscribers drop off, and then they peak during hurricane season while they drop off. And I go, you don't understand.

You're you're coming in during the snapshots. It'd be like seeing, you know, the greatest movie ever, and you walk in halfway through. You should watch the whole movie. And the what so the weather's a constant stream to me. And, you know, I I was asked one time I was at Heartland's conference, and I guess, there were some people there that don't like Heartland.

And I happen to love Heartland. But I was at the conference, and someone asked me, why are you so happy all the time? Well, first of all, I'm not happy all the time. But they asked me, I said, do you realize that how blessed I am that every morning I get up and it's Christmas? Because no matter who's causing the climate to change, the weather is always there.

And what I resent is that you took something that I love from when I was 2 or 3, and you drag it into a sewer, and it's a phony situation. So that's why that's why you see me get passionate about the whole thing. You got plenty of other things to drag into the sewer. Leave the weather and climate alone.

The, you're you're like the farmer's almanac of, the climate forecast there. You look you look at you look at history, you don't use models.

Yeah. But no. But no. I let let me rephrase it. I certainly look at models.

They're good teammates. Alright? If you know which models go look. It's no different. You know, on a on a wrestling team or a football team or whatever, you have a certain responsibility, but you need your teammates.

Well, models are teammates to me. And then some days I say, well, let's not throw the ball over there. And but in the end in the end, I have to take responsibility, you know, for for what happens. And there there's some things that are coming at us today as far as where the ocean rapid oceanic warming and, and, WISDEM over there at Hong Kong the Hong Kong Institute, I guess it is. He's done so much with, looking at these underwater heat waves that go on and then the response that go on goes on.

And those kind of things really bug me because we don't have the data sit this is this is so crazy to me, folks. You know why? The oceans have 99% of the thermal energy of the entire system. We have 6,000 boys, one every 112,000 miles square mile that get down to 6,000 feet. The ocean is at 14,000 feet.

How the heck are you gonna anticipate any of the changes in the ocean until they're actually underway? Now if you if you look at what the ocean the c f f c twos do with the ocean temperatures, it is cooling. I've never seen a drop like this. Well, the reason is because it's so warm. I've never seen it so warm either.

But it drops it so dramatically by winter, I suspect those boys are seeing are seeing, cooling going on at the 6,000 foot level. Sure enough this morning, I'm talking to my friend doctor Vittarito about it, and he says, I can't get the data for another 2 to 3 months, but the initial data looks like the geothermal input may be shutting down compared to what it's been. Well, we're gonna find out. That excites me too because it would test it would test my hypothesis. Any forecast is a test.

So that's how I look at it every day.

So before we go, I wanna make sure that all of you know about a new video series, by the Heartland Institute. Linnea has been doing these, talking about our climate at a glance topics. And we put in 2 new videos a week on our video channel on the heartland.org website. And if you haven't seen them yet, these are great. They're nice, simple synopsis of climate facts that you can listen and watch, and they're really well done.

So, then, you know, take a look and show them. Spread them around. Share them on social media. They are effective, and they are factually based. Linea, anything else from you?

Right. Well, we're definitely trying to, reach more, some younger audiences and stuff with both of our the formatting that we decided to do for these videos and also, with kind of short form. But it turns out that everyone seems to like the short form, so I'm happy about that. It's turning out really well. I'm glad people are liking them.

They're all based off of what we already have published at the Climate at a Glance for teachers and students book, which we have an app for, that yeah. There's the little sidebar thing. We have it on iPhone and also Android. So, download the app if you guys want. We're gonna figure out a way.

I don't know if we've really cleaned it up yet, but we're working on getting the videos, linked on the app and the website as well. We're trying to figure out the best way to do that, and it's coming along. So thank you guys so much for all of your support on all of this stuff.

Right. Right. Thank you so much. Joe, thank you for joining us today. Your insight, wisdom, and historical knowledge are always greatly appreciated.

And, of course, Sterling and Linnea, thank you for your expert commentary. And in the background, Jim Lakeley producing this week, keeping everything under control. Before you you go, I wanna remind you to visit climate ataglance.com, climaterealism.com, energy ataglance.com, and, of course, my website, what's up with that dot com for all of the factual things you'll never see in the mainstream media. I'm Anthony Watts, senior fellow for environment and climate, thanking everyone for joining us today. Wishing you a great Friday and a fantastic weekend.

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